And then she said, "Do you want to take it over?" I'm like, "Uh … yeah." Because it's a no-brainer. She approached me in early June of this year about saying, "Hey Mike, do you want to take over the Muzzle Up Project? Because I'm going to be pursuing more of the human side of psychology." So she's pursuing a different career. I was supporting the project, and I always mentioned it during my seminars and things like that. Michael Shikashio: I talked to Maureen quite a bit over the years. Melissa Breau: How did you come to take things over there? It's really an outreach kind of thing, educating the public and getting rid of that stigma surrounding muzzles. So it is focusing on that - the advocacy, education, and training aspects of using muzzles with dogs. It was started by Maureen Backman, and it's an advocacy project to reduce the stigma of muzzles, because we know there's a lot of misconceptions and stigma around muzzling and dog muzzles. Michael Shikashio: The Muzzle Up Project has been around since about 2013. Melissa Breau: I think you're pretty well known at this point for your work on reactivity, but a little birdie told me you recently took on a new project: the Muzzle Up Project. So I've been training her to do a lot of different things, and some of that we'll actually talk about during this podcast. She's my girlfriend's Chilean street dog, and right now I'm working on a million different things with her because she is my demo dog for all of my webinars and course materials. Michael Shikashio: I have several dogs spread out across a couple of families. Melissa Breau: To start us out, can you remind listeners who your dogs are, and what you're working on with them? Michael is a featured speaker at conferences, universities, and seminars around the world, and offers a variety of workshops, webinars, and online courses on the topic of canine aggression, and founded the Aggression in Dogs Master Course. He is sought after for his expert opinion by numerous media outlets, including the New York Times, New York Post, Baltimore Sun, WebMD, Women's Health Magazine, Real Simple Magazine, The Chronicle of the Dog, and Steve Dale's Pet World. Michael is fully certified through the IAABC and is a full member of the Association of Professional Dog Trainers (APDT). Michael is the past president of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC), and provides private consultations working exclusively with dog aggression cases through his business,. Today we'll be talking to Mike Shikashio. Melissa Breau: This is Melissa Breau and you're listening to the Fenzi Dog Sports Podcast brought to you by the Fenzi Dog Sports Academy, an online school dedicated to providing high-quality instruction for competitive dog sports using only the most current and progressive training methods.
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